Saturday, May 22, 2010

I have a male & female betta. They are ready to mate, but BOTH blew bubblenests?? What do I do next?

While I was out of town and having the neighbors feed them, their bowls were next to each other. Now if I move them away from each other they just lay on the bottom and don't eat. When they can see eachother they VERY lively and keep puffing up and ramming the glass. Thats not good so I need to figure out how to get them together soon. The thing I'm confused about is the nest she made. In like 2 days she made this thick, puffy bubble thing that she just stares at and is always under it. She changed colors and everything. The male has been working on his bubble thing, but it looks NOTHING like hers. I really want to know what it is-it looks like more than bubbles. Should I put him in her bowls or the other way around. I usually don't get this into my fish but at this rate they will keep ramming the walls and die. If anybody has any suggestions it would be much appriciated. Thanks.
Answers:
my female blows small bubbles sometimes..but mostly my male does. Dont breed them in bowls. The girl needs plants to hide in if she needs a break. You should also make shure BOTH are VERY well fed. I use a 10 gallon tank at first. Guppy fry are very small, so you need microworms, and baby brine shrimp, and vinigar eel to feed them when there small. Also, they feed on micro-scopic organisms. Heres more about breeding bettas. It's a very good website, so look threw it: http://www.bettatalk.com/breeding_bettas.
Man your crazy if u think I'm going to read all that.I hope u get your answer.
SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE TWO AGGRESSIVE MALES, RETARD. GO AHEAD AND PUT THEM TOGETHER, THEY WILL KILL EACH OTHER. OOPS, caps!
Relax, sometimes the females just like to help. Continue on.

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NO IDEA! but you might want to look at these sights.

Petco.com
Put them in the same tank. Then video tape it if something cool happens. I will buy you two new betta fish if i get to watch them fight to the death. thanks
You should fillet them with some butter and lemon.
i think you put the him in her bowl, so after she gets pregnant, she can lay her eggs in her nest and he can be put back in his tank.
Honestly I advise against mating. It's really violent in most cases. Requires a lot of preparation, and equipment. And will likely results in hundreds of offspring. (Got 50-100 jars ready for the males?) Betta often like seeing other fish and will get depressed when they are removed from sight of other bettas. This is very common with newly jared male bettasbettas, and betta father who have been seperated from their fry. The irony is that the young males would happily fight, and kill each. The father will eat his fry once they become free swimming. Aggression is a big part of betta socialization. It's unlikely they will ever be a happy couple. At best they'll fight, mate, and he'll drive her into a corner of the bowl once they've mated. At worse one of them will kill the other. (Don't count the female out.)

Personally I'd seperate them, and maybe let them have visiting hours for an hour or so a couple of times a week. (Don't put them together as a bowl is unsuitable for mating.) If they refuse to eat just push them together when you feed them. (A betta who isn't eating will often eat if he sees another betta eating.) A bit of mirror time will often perk them up. It's also possible that after a while of seeing each they will calm down.

PS- If you want to breed them you need to do a lot of prep. See link.
some bettas are just better nest makers than others. that could be why they look different. perhaps this passage might help regarding that:
" I noticed an immediate difference in the bubbles the female was producing and the bubbles produced by males. For one thing, they were smaller. They also seemed less sticky and more prone to popping and separating than a male's bubbles. Nevertheless, she was doing the best she could, spreading the eggs in a single layer under her bubbles, again unlike most males, who seem to prefer to clump up the eggs. " (http://www.bettysplendens.com/articles/p.

it won't really matter whose nest is bigger or better though because you can't breed them in bowls anyhow. female don't always build nests so it's good that she seems receptive. even if she is receptive though, she will need space to run if he nips at her and places to hide. bettysplendens.com indicates that nest building females tend to be more agressive themselves, so i suggest lots of room and hiding. also, the babies will need room to grow out after they hatch. a bowl is inadequate.

bettas are very difficult to breed if you do not know what you are doing. they can be very agressive when they want to be even if they seem receptive. it's just a part of their mating habits.

A good setup is a 10 gallon tank with a sponge filter (that can't suck in babies), filled half way with dechlorinated water. add fungus cure or Maroxy to keep the eggs from fungusing and getting your adults sick before you start. the male is released into the tank, then the female is released into a hurricane glass enclosure to keep her safe. you may be able to carefully transfer some of one or both of their nests to the spawning tank for them to restart building from while you condition them with live or freeze-dried foods. on the side you will have to start a culture of infusoria for the newborns so it will be ready when they hatch.

read here for more info:
http://www.bettatalk.com/breeding_bettas.


if after all that, you decide not to attempt mating them, they will be perfectly fine whether they can see each other or not. they will eventually learn to regain normal behavior.

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